Curse

6am3 Fana71c · Aug 24, 2007, 04:38 PM // 16:38

Fish no offense but I think it comes down to this: You want some kind of armor which requires effort to get it only so you don't have to listen to those jerks screaming you got FoW via Ebay. This way you are elite and no one can deny that. Right? Well whatever. FYI, I got half of FoW set for my warrior, only and I repeat ONLY because I like it. Not to be 1337 or anuthing, I just liked it and I got it. I could get full set but warrior males look fat in it imho. And one important thing: I never had to grind for it. I just did Urgoz Warren, and in a week I had enough money to buy it, and I was left with around 300K which I spent on mini Gwen. And guess what, I don't care if someone says I Ebayed it, I got it for myself, and because I like it. I don't know why people have a need to feel elite. You have titles? Good for you, pal. Display them and move on. Why would Anet add epic armor only cus you have a need to be somewhat more important then others, with armor which is saying: Wow, I got this armor by hard work, not like those stinky FoW owners, now bow to me...

ShadowsRequiem · Aug 24, 2007, 04:50 PM // 16:50

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Your going to have to explain that one to me!

How is adding one set of armor that requires LG to unlock it, changing the entire game into something it isnt? What would this be changing it into?

I really dont understand that statement!

How is this going to fundimentally change anything. Its only an idea to add one extra armor set that requires you have achieved Lengendary Gaurdian to buy it.

Yes I can see the entire Tyrian world calling apart now!!

This need to max titles to achieve stuff is nothing new. You have noticed the favor system has changed? You do know that maxing certain titles effect lockpick survival and salvage survival?

Titles already have incentives to complete them. But because those insentives dont result in a material object, people dont complain. Again the only argument I have seen against this idea is...

"I dont like to max titles, and if I cant have this armor then no one can"

...well I like FOW armor, but you dont see me winging because Im realistic that I will never buy it. The reason being that I hate elite zones and I hate the idea of spending hours farming gold, ectos and shards just for some flashy armor.

But you dont see me complaining about FOW armor do you?

There are countless things ingame that require one level of grind or another to unlock, achieve or buy. Im sure some people consider FOW or Vabbian armor a grind to buy, but they dont complain.

But again, I dont see how adding a title related armor set would fundimentally change the game? I dont mind debating this, but can someone please give a reason against this other then "I dont like to max titles, so it not fair on me".

Because I could use that exact same argument for FOW armor, Vabbian armor, Luxon/Kuzack armor and elite zone green weapons!! Everything in this game requires some level of grind or another, so you cant use that as a reason against it.

You have to put some effort in to get everything, and again its a choice! You dont have to own it!!!

I just think you're a moron. That's all.

"I hate farming gold blah blah blah bitch bitch bitch!" So you want to farm titles instead? oh, I see WHAT A HUGE CHANGE!

Hate farming and elite areas buy normal armor, its strange when you say you hate grinding for items, yet you completely flip flop and say you want to grind for titles.

smart guy.
imo since when is fow armor hard to get?

freekedoutfish · Aug 24, 2007, 04:58 PM // 16:58

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Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c

Fish no offense but I think it comes down to this: You want some kind of armor which requires effort to get it only so you don't have to listen to those jerks screaming you got FoW via Ebay. This way you are elite and no one can deny that. Right? Well whatever. FYI, I got half of FoW set for my warrior, only and I repeat ONLY because I like it. Not to be 1337 or anuthing, I just liked it and I got it. I could get full set but warrior males look fat in it imho. And one important thing: I never had to grind for it. I just did Urgoz Warren, and in a week I had enough money to buy it, and I was left with around 300K which I spent on mini Gwen. And guess what, I don't care if someone says I Ebayed it, I got it for myself, and because I like it. I don't know why people have a need to feel elite. You have titles? Good for you, pal. Display them and move on. Why would Anet add epic armor only cus you have a need to be somewhat more important then others, with armor which is saying: Wow, I got this armor by hard work, not like those stinky FoW owners, now bow to me...

Well im sorry if it seems I just want to apear elite, but I really dont. I just wanted armor that required more then just gold and armor.

Something you could have pride in owning.

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Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem

I just think you're a moron. That's all.

"I hate farming gold blah blah blah bitch bitch bitch!" So you want to farm titles instead? oh, I see WHAT A HUGE CHANGE!

Hate farming and elite areas buy normal armor, its strange when you say you hate grinding for items, yet you completely flip flop and say you want to grind for titles.

smart guy.
imo since when is fow armor hard to get?

Im a moron, why is that? explain that to me too!

Yes I dont like grinding for gold and materials, but I dont mind doing something like completing missions on both normal and hard mode because it shows effort.

Understand this....

...I was suggseting we user [b]Legendary gaurdian[b/] to unlock the armor! I'm not personally trying to achieve that title because I love to grind titles. I dont.

Im trying to achieve that title because I happen to want to, because I want to play through the game in total on both normal and hard mode.

I dont consider wanting to complete the game on both settigns a grind, and if you do... why are you playing PvE?

Why are you playing a game when you considering re-doing missions a grind, when the most important aspects of PvE are the missions! I quite honestly think your a moron and a child for complaining that someone is asking you to complete the game in both normal and hard mode to get access to one set of armor.

But just for the record, have you been playing the GWEN preview weekend?

Did you happen to notice how you get access to Norn armor, and that you are required to achieve a certain rank in Norn respect? Hmmm!!

Are you going cry and winge now and make a thread complaining that you have to grind Norn points to get that set of armor?

ShadowsRequiem · Aug 24, 2007, 05:24 PM // 17:24

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Well im sorry if it seems I just want to apear elite, but I really dont. I just wanted armor that required more then just gold and armor.

Something you could have pride in owning.

Im a moron, why is that? explain that to me too!

Yes I dont like grinding for gold and materials, but I dont mind doing something like completing missions on both normal and hard mode because it shows effort.

Understand this....

...I was suggseting we user [b]Legendary gaurdian[b/] to unlock the armor! I'm not personally trying to achieve that title because I love to grind titles. I dont.

Im trying to achieve that title because I happen to want to, because I want to play through the game in total on both normal and hard mode.

I dont consider wanting to complete the game on both settigns a grind, and if you do... why are you playing PvE?

Why are you playing a game when you considering re-doing missions a grind, when the most important aspects of PvE are the missions! I quite honestly think your a moron and a child for complaining that someone is asking you to complete the game in both normal and hard mode to get access to one set of armor.

But just for the record, have you been playing the GWEN preview weekend?

Did you happen to notice how you get access to Norn armor, and that you are required to achieve a certain rank in Norn respect? Hmmm!!

Are you going cry and winge now and make a thread complaining that you have to grind Norn points to get that set of armor?

yes you are a moron, i'm not getting gwen so I dont really give a rats ass.

Have fun playing guildwars in your moms basement typing OMG I NEED ELITE ARMORZ! threads. I'm sure you can marry one of your characters online......... but then again they would clearly be the ones losing.

freekedoutfish · Aug 24, 2007, 05:54 PM // 17:54

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Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem

yes you are a moron, i'm not getting gwen so I dont really give a rats ass.

Have fun playing guildwars in your moms basement typing OMG I NEED ELITE ARMORZ! threads. I'm sure you can marry one of your characters online......... but then again they would clearly be the ones losing.

How exactly do you think slagging me off for absolutely no reason is going to get your view accross? How or why is anyone going to even care what you think if you cant get an idea accross without speaking like that?

But I love how you throw this steroe-type geek image at me, considering you play the exact same game, probably spend just as much time on it and yet your the one has to resort to foul language and insults to try and make a point.

Have you heard the expression "calling the Kettle black"?

If your not a geek like the rest of us, then why are you reading and posting in forums like this one?

As for the whole living my "mams basement" thing. Mate I live in the United kingdom, we dont have basements unless your rich and live in a mansion and you like to keep wine cool. But hey, if you want me to send you lots of photos of what it looks like on the inside of a pub and what its like to socialise outside of the house, let me know!

And actually im quite happy be the 25 year old jack-the lad that I am, so I dont think I'm gonna want to settle down with one my ingame character just yet!

Maybe come back and post, when you can think of a mature way to express your opinions and talk without the need to use insults and making huge assumptions about people.

Heres an assumption of my own...

...how about you finish your GSCEs or your A-Levels first, maybe go through pubity a bit, kiss a few girls and get over your teenage anx first. Then you'l know how to hold a conversation and realise that insulting people doesnt make you look cool.

All that aside, you still have explained why i'm a moron, other then your wonderfull American Stero-type about who I am?

The Lost Explorer · Aug 24, 2007, 09:44 PM // 21:44

/Signed

I know i might never get any HM titles but it still would be cool to see others with Awesome Armor. I Personally love titles and i have 6 Maxed not as good as most but I don't play as long as most do. But Eventually I will(Hopefully). But i think ppl who put the time in too those titles desevre a reward like awesome armor. Titles can only be showen in Outposts whereas Armor can be showen everywhere. Why can't we show our work towards the game everywhere like Extreme Farmers do?

razor39999 · Aug 24, 2007, 11:01 PM // 23:01

This is just a plain bad idea that adds even more grind to getting armor (which is a big grind already). I mean fine, PvE should be in the end nothing but a farm/grind/trade, but making one optional thing mandatory to get another optional thing you might like is totally killing even the repetitive PvE. God bless GvG.

populationcontrol · Aug 24, 2007, 11:10 PM // 23:10

great idea i like it. the little tittle that appears underneath ur name doesnt do it for me. this would be visible outside of outposts and getting custume armor is cool. if however it charged you once you maxed out a tittle the same it charges for fow it would be annoying like nothing else. the possbility to getting or unlocking unique emotes would be cool as well.

maraxusofk · Aug 25, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40

hmm this sounds reasonable EXCEPT that alot of titles are super grind. yeah 100% cartographer is cool but NO vanquishing isnt. vanquishing is the MOST boring task u can possibly do. i would support max title armro for non grind based, ie cartograpehr, guardians, skill hunter (sorta u get a use from elites at least) but not vanquisher, luck.

Masterr · Aug 25, 2007, 12:47 AM // 00:47

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Well dunno if you noticed, but GWEN has added armor that requires you to max certain titles!!!

and that REALLY sucks

ShadowsRequiem · Aug 25, 2007, 04:07 AM // 04:07

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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

How exactly do you think slagging me off for absolutely no reason is going to get your view accross? How or why is anyone going to even care what you think if you cant get an idea accross without speaking like that?

But I love how you throw this steroe-type geek image at me, considering you play the exact same game, probably spend just as much time on it and yet your the one has to resort to foul language and insults to try and make a point.

Have you heard the expression "calling the Kettle black"?

If your not a geek like the rest of us, then why are you reading and posting in forums like this one?

As for the whole living my "mams basement" thing. Mate I live in the United kingdom, we dont have basements unless your rich and live in a mansion and you like to keep wine cool. But hey, if you want me to send you lots of photos of what it looks like on the inside of a pub and what its like to socialise outside of the house, let me know!

And actually im quite happy be the 25 year old jack-off lad that I am(I couldnt help it!), so I dont think I'm gonna want to settle down with one my ingame character just yet!

Maybe come back and post, when you can think of a mature way to express your opinions and talk without the need to use insults and making huge assumptions about people.

Heres an assumption of my own...

...how about you finish your GSCEs or your A-Levels first, maybe go through pubity a bit, kiss a few girls and get over your teenage anx first. Then you'l know how to hold a conversation and realise that insulting people doesnt make you look cool.

All that aside, you still have explained why i'm a moron, other then your wonderfull American Stero-type about who I am?

Lol its not my fault I like arguing with people for the 15 mins i'm on this site

yes yes thats right I did explain why you are one! XD

teenage angst? huh Let me assure you, my breasts are much larger then yours! and i've touched WAY more girls then you.

whats fun in mature Oo
all I know is if populationcontrol agrees with this, i'm against it!!!

Masterr · Aug 25, 2007, 04:28 AM // 04:28

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Originally Posted by The Lost Explorer

/Signed

I know i might never get any HM titles but it still would be cool to see others with Awesome Armor. I Personally love titles and i have 6 Maxed not as good as most but I don't play as long as most do. But Eventually I will(Hopefully). But i think ppl who put the time in too those titles desevre a reward like awesome armor. Titles can only be showen in Outposts whereas Armor can be showen everywhere. Why can't we show our work towards the game everywhere like Extreme Farmers do?

because guildwars is not a job, you dont spend time working in guildwars (thats why "working" a title is plain wrong), you play the game for fun, its not a job.

populationcontrol · Aug 25, 2007, 05:09 AM // 05:09

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Originally Posted by Masterr

because guildwars is not a job, you dont spend time working in guildwars (thats why "working" a title is plain wrong), you play the game for fun, its not a job.

guild wars is like a job, it only differs from it that when working you may or may not get paid.

freekedoutfish · Aug 25, 2007, 12:33 PM // 12:33

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Originally Posted by Masterr

because guildwars is not a job, you dont spend time working in guildwars (thats why "working" a title is plain wrong), you play the game for fun, its not a job.

So just because you dont enjoy maxing titles, that means the entire title system isnt fun for anyone?

I dont find trying to max Legendary Guardian that intensive that it could be concidered a job. You go online for a couple of hours a night, maybe 3 or 4 days a week, do the odd few missions in hard mode.

How is that grind and how is that soooo intensive that it can be compared to a job?

I really dont understand that.

freekedoutfish · Aug 25, 2007, 12:34 PM // 12:34

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Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem

Lol its not my fault I like arguing with people for the 15 mins i'm on this site

yes yes thats right I did explain why you are one! XD

teenage angst? huh Let me assure you, my breasts are much larger then yours! and i've touched WAY more girls then you.

whats fun in mature Oo
all I know is if populationcontrol agrees with this, i'm against it!!!

Good for you!

Dead_Metal_Zero · Aug 25, 2007, 02:04 PM // 14:04

It's an interesting idea, I'll give you that, but it might need some tweaking.

1st: Not everyone has all chapters, so the legendary might not be the best type of title. Continent based a bit more reasonable imo (and it allows for more sets)

2nd: The requirement for access should be chapter completion, like canthan or primeval, and higher ranks in the title give discounts on the armor. Like Protector gives 25% off and Guardian gives 50% off both in mats and gold.

In this way, it gives everyone access to get it in the way they prefer, Be it missions and bonuses, or farming until you cant feel your rear end.

That's my take on this.

Trub · Aug 25, 2007, 02:38 PM // 14:38

I like the idea of 'unique' armors for those players that gave that extra effort in playing the game, and not Ebaying or scamming for it.
I personally will probably never achieve these said armors...but I do enjoy seeing another player, that I know has EARNED every peice of it, wearing it proudly.
Who knows...maybe someday, with some extra effort on my part..I can gain it too!
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populationcontrol · Aug 25, 2007, 06:42 PM // 18:42

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Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem

teenage angst? huh Let me assure you, my breasts are much larger then yours! and i've touched WAY more girls then you.

all I know is if populationcontrol agrees with this, i'm against it!!!

why are you biased against me, as to the girls... SURE YOU HAVE.

genofreek · Aug 25, 2007, 06:51 PM // 18:51

I dunno... I kind of like the idea of elite armor that you actually have to earn. I may or may not bother to get it myself for the same reason none of my characters wear FoW -- I usually don't feel like grinding for the money or items, and I doubt I'm going to be as gung-ho about Norn titles when I'm not getting reputation points handed over hundreds at a time.

Entitlement kings complaining about not being able to instantly get at the good stuff should look at it this way -- you DO NOT have to have this equipment to play the game. Elite items in the game are elite for a reason. Don't want to have to work extra hard for that awesome piece of armor? Then don't get it. Buy yourself something with the same rating that costs about 100 fewer hours to get. Sure, it might not look as cool, and chances are nobody's gonna compliment your style, but that's the price you pay.

With botting and ebaying spinning so far out of control, high-priced armor that uses a stack or two of rare items are no longer reasonable limitations. Only thing left to do is implement a timesink or accept the fact that there isn't any really prestigious armor anymore.

Nemo the Capitalist · Aug 25, 2007, 07:10 PM // 19:10

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Originally Posted by Elena

grinding titles for armor ? not in my game!

agrees wholeheartedly yeah play a few thousand hrs to get my guildhall smells like mahongany lmao

maybe...
if i had no life ( oh wait i dont ^_^ )
no job (oops i do)
no school (college)

good game
btw i prefer my FoW Tank armor (all farmed)
if i had a brain i woulda ebayed it but i believe in an honest game